Here's a multi-layered questions from a non-historian but someone who's interested to know more.

I was just reading an article on homosexuality in history (, and something that struck me was how ideas and quotes from past philosophers managed to have an influence on their current politics, and can still be used to defend ideas or positions. A recurring theme in this article is the idea that a "truth" is told, and remains the "truth" without exceptions (despite science) – and if you're an exception, the governing body will help ease the confusion by making it not exist anymore, at times more so strictly than others.

Part of what I'm wondering is if in those times, it wasn't just "Man has real good thought, let's follow", rather more of an ecosystem of interests that helped influence policy and develop "society", and if this is talked about in different contexts of history (or perhaps about relationships between the thinkers and the policy makers).

Back to the gays, I'm wondering if things like spreading illness (no disposable, flushable anything at any time before 100-200 years ago?), or personal insecurities (anything non consensual sucks, probably happened a lot, still does, still sucks), or lack of availability to proper lubricants ("unnatural" indeed if it hurts) had any influence on the minds of policy makers and followers / enforcers, and if it has been written about (I suppose people didn't write much about swollen anuses, but did they?).

I'm wondering if these ideas are talked about in history and if they can go beyond speculation, which is all the above is. I am not a historian, just I find it… interesting for some reason.

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